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Old 09-02-2008, 06:56 AM   #1
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Chrome beta today

For those of you who like to be on the bleeding edge of the browser wars, Google has announced they will be releasing a beta version of Chrome for Windows today.
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Old 09-02-2008, 09:02 AM   #2
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yeah I was just reading up on it, I went on but couldnt find a dl link anywhere I take it I have to wait a bit longer
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:20 PM   #3
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Old 09-02-2008, 05:19 PM   #4
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Already submitted my first bug report: it won't scroll up via my notebook's touchpad input, it will only scroll down.
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Old 09-02-2008, 05:51 PM   #5
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Ah, thanks for the link. I was looking for that
Going to install and give it a whirl.. but something tells me not to get my hopes high on this browser.
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:31 PM   #6
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wow, it needs some major tune ups already.
But it is handling some of my JS better then or equal to FF
Let see what happens but right now it needs some major tune ups, I do like their developer toolkit it shows you resources it's good, it also does render fast
PNG support is also lacking
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:51 PM   #7
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wow, it needs some major tune ups already.
But it is handling some of my JS better then or equal to FF
Let see what happens but right now it needs some major tune ups, I do like their developer toolkit it shows you resources it's good, it also does render fast
PNG support is also lacking
As far as JS is concerned, nobdy pushes it like Safari.. Javsscript simply screams on Safari.

I feel that the browser is too minimalistic.. looks nice and simple and clean (which is their goal evidently).. but for it's simplistic use, I feel Opera 9.52 is faster. Granted, I think Chrome is a Beta.. so who knows.. mabey it will be faster when it reached RC stage.

As for PNG, it does support it. My website is build using PNG panels (the background can be seen tiling beneath it), and it seems to display just nicely.
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:12 PM   #8
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mine it had some trouble when I loaded my website with PNG bg's, put the browser to the background, came back to it a few minutes later and my pngs were all opaque
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:50 PM   #9
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I love this browser! It's clean and its super fast.

It's faster than safari at JavaScript. The V8 JavaScript virtual machine is nice!

Just to back that up, there are plenty of comparisons on the web but this one looks pretty good. http://timepedia.blogspot.com/2008/0...tition-on.html

Seems that FF 3.1 with the new JIT engine is just about matching Safari. but in terms of speed, Chrome looks to be way ahead just now...
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:56 PM   #10
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It's based on the same engine as Safari, so I would expect it to have similar performance.

Some food for thought, though:

Section 11.1 of the EULA:
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11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.
Sort of makes you wonder what sort of info they might be gathering on your web surfing, if they can view and publish any web page you visit (your online bank statement?), etc. While I'm sure they'll say they'd never do that, how can we be sure?

Anyway, until I hear more about this aspect, I won't be using Chrome for private purposes until I see satisfactory evidence that what the above section seems to say is not what they mean. (The Firefox EULA has no such clause in it.)
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:58 PM   #11
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It's based on the same engine as Safari, so I would expect it to have similar performance.
It's got a totally different JavaScript engine. It uses V8

http://code.google.com/p/v8/
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So I decided to test Chrome Beta using acid test 3. You know.. just for the hell of it.. see where this browser stands with regards to what web developers / designers want out of browsers...

Oh? What's that, Chrome? Page is down or cannot be found? Every single time I try? Even when all the other browsers got the page on the first shot? Well.. ain't that something? Thankfully, there is a link to try out the cached version.

Chrome fell short (only managing %58.. but then again, FireFox 3.0.1 fell short at %56!).
Chrome's more established cousin (a.k.a Safari [in my case...windows version]) faired better (%72). The browser that so far has performed the best was Opera 9.52 (at %78). On all tests, I had scripting / javascripting enabled. (Opera didn't have Java though..so I could not enable that one). IE 8 Beta 2 faired the worst by a long shot (%20).

Granted, with all this, Chrome is still in Beta.. I checked the limited amount of options out, and there was nothing listed about Java nor Javascript.

So I am curious if in the end once the stable Release Candidate of Chrome launches, if it will perform acid tests better than Safari. Chrome is fast, no doubt.. but I hope its developers didn't overlook the features web designers are looking for in a web brower.. so far though, so good.
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hmm I don't know what you did but I went to the link and it loaded fine. I also scored higher than you did too.

In my case it done better than Safari.

I think you might find some of the tests fail in a cached version. This would be because of cross-site scripting restrictions I guess.

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I just re-tried Chrome with acid test 3 link again (this time it loaded no problem) and scored %78! Wow.. not bad at all!
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hmm I don't know what you did but I went to the link and it loaded fine. I also scored higher than you did too.

In my case it done better than Safari.

I think you might find some of the tests fail in a cached version. This would be because of cross-site scripting restrictions I guess.

I attached a screen dump
Well, it will fail if it isn't at %100
But I wasn't aware of lower success rates using cached versions.. so it worked the last time I did it.. score matched Safari EDIT(oops.. I meant Opera 9.52).. so for a Beta.. looking very good indeed.
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